from l eZ l - Iceicles???

[admin]

HeY Greg

Was wondering if you could help me out with this problem of mine. I'm trying to figure out how to make iceicles. I mean really nice ones that might hang from text or some other effect, think you can give me ideas as to how to do this, or maybe if you know of some tutorials that shows this? I myself have been looking but have come up with nothing, hope you can help, THANKS!

--eZ

[Greg Vander Houwen]

Welcome,

Great request.

I have been working on a technique for ice, (the frozen block kind) but haven't finished it yet. Ice is tricky because to represent it you have to deal with a lot of optical stuff, refraction, reflection, specular... and by definition 3d, in other words tough to do well.

I could just paint it but that doesn't add up to a technique. So I am trying to find an elegant ice using filters, effects and such. What I have now is looking pretty sweet but it still needs work before I would be willing to call it my own.

As to icicles, I should do that as well. I don't know why I didn't think of it. Thanks for the idea.

Here is a list of what I found that is currently available.

http://www.axxessdenied.com/tuts/photoshop/icetext/index.php

http://www.dsigning.com/photoshop/texteffects/ice/

http://www.digital-foundry.com/photoshop/text/ice.shtml

http://www.goranation.com/photoshop/tips/ice.htm

http://www.geocities.com/dhouseng/icetext.html

Hopefully this will point you in a good direction until I can get one worked up.

Sorry to redirect you on this, I am working like crazy to get the PhotoshopTechniques site built at the moment. I intend to have a place to show more complex techniques like this soon.

Hope this helps a little,

btw: Have you seen my Fire ; ), it will be one of the first techniques to show up on the site.

http://www.netcandy.com/Interact/Imgfi.htm

Greg

[Speedy]

Hmm I don't know if this is what you mean or if you need something more advanced ...
... if this is what you want just tell me and I will be glad to tell you how to do this :)

[Ammar Midani]

Hello Speedy and welcome, nice technique you showed, it would be nice to know the steps.

[Greg Vander Houwen]

Welcome Speedy,

Yes, nice little technique there. I am trying for a version that is zoomed in closer so you can see the optical refraction in the ice. Should be tricky ;).

Thanks for posting.

Greg

[Hannu Hurme]

Damn you Greg, now I'm salvating all over my keyboard.. it's your fault if it short cirquits! :D

[Ammar Midani]

i came across this one:
http://www.planetphotoshop.com/alward39.html

[Greg Vander Houwen]

Nice link Ammaro,

That one has a bit more of the vertical fall I am looking for.

Greg

[Ammar Midani]

can't wait for your tutorial Greg.

[Speedy]

Hey guys!

Sorry that I didn't reply sooner but I've had some ISP problems.

Well this is for Ammaro who wanted to know the steps of my
ice text, so here is a link to my step by step tutorial I made for
him. Ofcourse the rest of you can look at it too if you want to ;)

http://www.steffe.nu/tutorials/photoshop/ice/ice.htm

[Ammar Midani]

thanks, Speedy

[Speedy]

You're welcome Ammaro!

I'm glad I can help someone out, probably need more help than I can give :|

Hope you get it to work.

[brain21]

OK, here is a quickie that I just threw together using layer styles. This is VERY simple, and when you are done, if you like it I would save the layer style.

-Create background
-New layer
-Create Icicle shape on new layer (triangle & then shear to give it some curves)
-add the following layer styles to the icicle layer:

Drop Shadow:
============
-Just play with this till you like it.

Inner Shadow:
=============
-STRUCTURE: Blend Mode= Multiply, color = black, opacity=34%, angle=120, NO global light, distance=9, choke=0, size=12
-QULAITY: contour=linear, NO anti-aliased, noise=0

Outer Glow
===========
-STRUCTURE: Blend=screen, opacity=46%, noise=0, glow color=white, gradient=foreground to transparent
-ELEMENTS: Technique=softer,spread=0,size=6
-QUALITY: contour=linear, range=50%, jitter=0

BEVEL & EMBOSS
==============
-STRUCTURE: Style=inner bevel, Bevel=smooth, depth=550, direction=up, size=6, soften=0
-SHADING: angle=120, altitude=30, gloss contour=cone, highlight mode=screen - color=white - opacity=100, Shadow mode=overlay - color=black - opacity=30

--Contour - half-round, anti-aliased, range=60
--Texture - Pattern=satin, scale=43, depth=+50, link with layer

Satin
=====
-STRUCTURE: Blend=overlay, color=white,opacity=100, angle=135, distance=5, size=15, contour=ring-double, anti-aliased.

That should do it.

Of course there are a few other things to play with...

1)Try adding either an inner glow or color overlay of very light blue for a more icy effect.
2) Warp the background to mimic the effects of seeing it through ice. (use the distor/glass filter on the background using the icicle layer as a selection - iow, only distort what is behind the icicle). You can see this effect in the image shown here.
3) Try giving the whole thing a more ROUNDED feel. THis one is one that I threw together in just a couple of minutes, so it looks kinda flat, but it gives you the ideas.

You can also probably do this with filters as well.

Anyway, it is just something to get you started on some ideas, and it a little different from what others are posting.

Brain21

[Ammar Midani]

ohh great, thanks for sharing.

seems thatyou're digging.


Ammar

[brain21]

Yeah, pretty old thread, but for some reason, until the other day I never even looked through the "member forums". I've been on the board off anf on for probably 6 months or so and just never noticed! D'oh!

Brain21

[GodOfWar]

That looks great, thanks brain, I'll have to try it myself.

Weird you didn't notice the member forums :'

-GoW-

[venivedi]

I think it is very realistic. Coo~ool!
I'll try to follow your step.

ps. here's an imitation of a lump of ice by venivedi.
Any critic & comment will be welcome. ^^*

[Hannu Hurme]

Venividi, I think you got the pattern right but there seems to be now 3D shading at all. Maybe some darker airbrushing at the right side to give it some more dimension?

[venivedi]

Yes, it needs some shades for 3d look.
I've touched that somewhat with airbrush.
Two layers used for highlighting and shadowing. They are Color Dodge mode layer filled with black and Color Burn mode one filled with white.
Since this is my first attempt to make ice look like thing, so I look to your guidance for better performance(???).

[Hannu Hurme]

Mmmh yeah, I think instead of black try using dark blue to do it.

[Raphael]

OK, time to remind you guys about the previous "making ice" (http://photoshoptechniques.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=456&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) thread.;}

}Raphael{

[Hannu Hurme]

I was just waiting for you to post that. :lol:

Here's my try at snow, I once did a whole background image that looked a lot better than this, but here's a simple process. The result isn't very grand either. ;)

1. Just draw an area with the lasso tool, and fill it with 50% grey (on a new layer of course).

http://etz.daug.net/images/misc/snowcube1.jpg

2. Then draw some dark and light areas with brush, I just used 50% grey and set the brushes mode to either screen or multiply (used 50% opacity too).

http://etz.daug.net/images/misc/snowcube2.jpg

3. Change the brush size to smaller and use color burn and color dodge to draw some more light / dark areas. You probably need to change brush opacity to 25%. Use even smaller brush to draw on top of the highlights to make them brighter.

http://etz.daug.net/images/misc/snowcube3.jpg

4. Smudge the shadows and highlights around a bit. Then use curves (ctrl-m) to adjust the image. I used kind of a zig-zag curve which inverted parts of the image.

http://etz.daug.net/images/misc/snowcube4.jpg

5. If you want to soften up the edges, make a channel from the outlines of the cube and run median filter, use that to mask the image. Then run median filter on the image itself to blur the details bit. You could add some noise to make it look more like snow at this point. Finally use curves or levels to make sure everything looks as it should and adjust the hue (I used colorization, hue 220) to make the color right.

http://etz.daug.net/images/misc/snowcube5.jpg

Not very good looking snow, I might dig up my old image and study it, maybe I would remember how I made snow at the first time I tried it (it looked a lot better). ;)

[Hannu Hurme]

Actually just a reminder for everyone else who's doing snow / ice what ever. Using a hue/saturation adjustment layer and putting it on colorization and hue 220 works wonders, it turns all those grey / black shadows to different (blue) hue and makes it usually look a lot better.

[venivedi]

:] This scene is so funny that I could not help laughing.

[Hannu Hurme]

Hehe, quite so. That fuzzy guy is actually the only reason to watch that horrible, horrible excuse of a movie. That's imho of course. :)

[venivedi]

I have a simple question.
What's the meaning of the word "imho"?
+++That's not in my dictionary.+++
Is that a sort of abbreviation?

[Speedy]

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

[venivedi]

What a speedy reply. ^^* Thanks a lot, Speedy.

[GodOfWar]

www.dictionary.com

Invaluable!

;}
-GoW-

[Hyper Tret]

Wow that's Tsupa!!!! I love the iceicle effect. It kind of reminds me of a tentacle. I'll make one.